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we should either go for regulated sites just like he preferred bisq
Hi! Bisq is not regulated by an authority, but only by its own code and its decentralised nature. Just to clarify my position, I 'd say that it's important to go either with: 1) fully regulated exchanges, doing KYC and providing full transparency. 2) proper decentralised exchanges that don't suddenly decide to ask for thing they didn't use to ask for.
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Btw, if it's no harm to your brand it would be nice to see you guys getting listed on Bestchange...like a crypto supports crypto relationship  Unfortunately, the business policy of BestChange has changed compared to some of the best days we've had here. Listing on Bestchange may be a good move for a business owner, but it is no longer a measure of quality. Impoverished management of user feedback, and they have listed some very obscure exchanges, which harms their reputation as a reliable aggregator. Plus, I don't see them as no-KYC friendly.
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Maybe someone has already mentioned it, but when I first visited the site, my browser warned me (Tor) that the site was attempting to perform canvas data extraction, which can identify the uniqueness of each user even without an IP address. Should such a feature even exist on a site like this?
I've seen some exchanges [mostly those with accounts] use various browser fingerprinting methods and considering that CCE Cash claims their system can flag suspicious transactions, I guess this might be one of the methods used for tracking suspicious activities [without an account].It makes sense, I just wonder who today can make a transaction in BTC, for example, and be sure that some AML bot (or whoever) won't mark that transaction as suspicious. I have nothing against transactions being checked in the sense that transfers related to hacking or any illegal activity are prevented, but ordinary users should not be held responsible because someone did something wrong with the coins they currently have in the previous transactions.
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Btw, if it's no harm to your brand it would be nice to see you guys getting listed on Bestchange...like a crypto supports crypto relationship  Unfortunately, the business policy of BestChange has changed compared to some of the best days we've had here. Listing on Bestchange may be a good move for a business owner, but it is no longer a measure of quality. Impoverished management of user feedback, and they have listed some very obscure exchanges, which harms their reputation as a reliable aggregator. Plus, I don't see them as no-KYC friendly. Wish those guys would be getting this kind of honest feedback from the community to fix things especially that their real users could be coming from this very forum. And for BC having been on the forum, am sure once in a while they do lurk around, maybe the mention of their name brings them here via the TG bot... All well then CCE will have to make a name for themselves, like real men 😅 
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I had the chance to poke around CCE yesterday, and found a couple of things I'd like to bring up. First, not a huge deal, but I noticed the text that pops up when you hover over a button is always in Chinese, regardless of what language is used when loading the site:  Second, I notice there's a ID tag that displays when making an exchange, but no Letter of Guarantee. Again, not the biggest deal, but it could help prevent people from sending their funds to spoof sites, which are sure to pop up sooner or later. I would like to see an LoG that's signed by a PGP key or a Bitcoin address staked here on the forum and another third-party site like GitHub, perhaps. Just an additional measure of safety, but people would need to be proactive and use it for it to have any meaningful impact.
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I had the chance to poke around CCE yesterday, and found a couple of things I'd like to bring up. First, not a huge deal, but I noticed the text that pops up when you hover over a button is always in Chinese, regardless of what language is used when loading the site:  Second, I notice there's a ID tag that displays when making an exchange, but no Letter of Guarantee. Again, not the biggest deal, but it could help prevent people from sending their funds to spoof sites, which are sure to pop up sooner or later. I would like to see an LoG that's signed by a PGP key or a Bitcoin address staked here on the forum and another third-party site like GitHub, perhaps. Just an additional measure of safety, but people would need to be proactive and use it for it to have any meaningful impact. Thanks for finding this issue! You're absolutely right - the hover tooltip should respect the site's current language setting. We'll fix this as soon as possible. Thanks for your support.
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May 29, 2025, 07:12:41 AM |
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I just wonder who today can make a transaction in BTC, for example, and be sure that some AML bot (or whoever) won't mark that transaction as suspicious.
Probably the government agencies are the only ones who can make sure that their transactions remain safe from these various AML tools [e.g. I assume that's what they also do when they sell a portion of the confiscated Bitcoins]. - BTW, I totally agree with the rest of your post, they need to come up with something that doesn't lead to collateral damages (especially in cases that victims have no way of proving the SOF).
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May 29, 2025, 02:43:29 PM |
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Hi! Bisq is not regulated by an authority, but only by its own code and its decentralised nature.
Just to clarify my position, I 'd say that it's important to go either with: 1) fully regulated exchanges, doing KYC and providing full transparency. 2) proper decentralised exchanges that don't suddenly decide to ask for thing they didn't use to ask for.
I know it is not regulated by any authority, but I liked your suggestion so I mentioned in my last reply here. I know alot about Bisq and its peer to peer nature and how anoynmous a person can be if using it. Thanks for the clarification though, we should stick to the option 2 and keep option 1 the last one if we are privacy-conscious.
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[...] This is a great idea, but in my opinion it's a double-edged sword. Will this additional feature scare off new users who are not very familiar or not familiar with letters of guarantee? (in the sense that not everyone is happy to download files from different sites).
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I have a question. In your tutorial it says "In the top field enter the amount of BTC you want to exchange". For example, I entered 0.001 but to save on fees, I will send not 0.001 BTC, but a little more or a little less. Will the exchange be completed by the amount of transferred BTC or do I need to transfer the exact amount of BTC?
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I just opened the official website of CCE Cash, but it says, "Verifying you are human. This may take a few seconds." But now it is more than five minutes, and I am not able to access the website. Is there anything wrong, or is this issue occurring on my side only? Firstly, I thought it could be due to weak signals of the wifi connection, but then I changed the connection, and it is still saying the same. Well, my question is that project team has turn on CF(cloudflare) intentionally due to any reason or I am facing this issue alone? Literally, it is still loading. 
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I just opened the official website of CCE Cash, but it says, "Verifying you are human. This may take a few seconds." But now it is more than five minutes, and I am not able to access the website. Is there anything wrong, or is this issue occurring on my side only? Firstly, I thought it could be due to weak signals of the wifi connection, but then I changed the connection, and it is still saying the same. Well, my question is that project team has turn on CF(cloudflare) intentionally due to any reason or I am facing this issue alone? Literally, it is still loading.  Use a VPN, This happens to me until I change to another country.
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[...] This is a great idea, but in my opinion it's a double-edged sword. Will this additional feature scare off new users who are not very familiar or not familiar with letters of guarantee? (in the sense that not everyone is happy to download files from different sites). imo, it shouldn't be a problem if downloading the letter of guarantee is optional. users who are not very familiar with how this works can just ignore it and complete their swap like it doesn't exist. i also noticed that the exact fee % CCE charges for the floating rate/fixed rate isn't displayed on the exchange page, only the exchange rate is. that info is important, so it would be nice if they added it in a transparent way.
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Official statement: Cybersecurity incident update Yesterday, our system suffered a malicious (DDoS) attack, during which our website lasted for several hours and received more than 100,000 malicious requests per minute. To this end, we immediately activated the incident response protocol and implemented Cloudflare's mitigation services to restore stability. We confirm that this incident did not result in any data leakage or customer information leakage. The attacker issued a ransom demand, but we clearly rejected it based on our security policy and ethical stance. Our technical team has resolved this issue and all services are now operating normally. We will continue to monitor our systems closely and strengthen our infrastructure to deal with future threats. We sincerely apologize for any interruptions caused by this and thank our users for their patience. Contact Us: Official Email: [email protected]Think big. Exchange wisely.
I have a question. In your tutorial it says "In the top field enter the amount of BTC you want to exchange". For example, I entered 0.001 but to save on fees, I will send not 0.001 BTC, but a little more or a little less. Will the exchange be completed by the amount of transferred BTC or do I need to transfer the exact amount of BTC?
The amount you pay will be automatically recognized by the system. Even if the amount you pay is inconsistent with the amount submitted by the system, it does not matter.
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apogio
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May 30, 2025, 05:28:46 AM |
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Will this additional feature scare off new users who are not very familiar or not familiar with letters of guarantee? (in the sense that not everyone is happy to download files from different sites).
One option is to add the letter of guarantee and then allow users to willingly ignore it, making it a nice-to-have feature for the more experienced, like Zwei mentions below: imo, it shouldn't be a problem if downloading the letter of guarantee is optional. users who are not very familiar with how this works can just ignore it and complete their swap like it doesn't exist.
Another option is to, additionally, produce it on the webpage, allowing the user to copy-paste it in a file in their system, without downloading it. And the final option is to ignore DireWolfM14's suggestion which is (in my opinion) the worst option.
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DireWolfM14
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May 30, 2025, 11:31:24 AM |
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[...] This is a great idea, but in my opinion it's a double-edged sword. Will this additional feature scare off new users who are not very familiar or not familiar with letters of guarantee? (in the sense that not everyone is happy to download files from different sites). As others have commented, there are many ways to implement it without forcing the user to download the LoG. Security should be a primary concern on any instant exchange. Copy cat scammers are sure to pop up and as unfair as it seems, CCE's reputation will be impacted when they do. The "Order Inquiry Code" is displayed on the top of the page where you'll send your funds, but it's not very prominent. I'm sure some will ignore it, and if they have a problem they'll wish they had it. I think CCE's reputation is worth having it displayed on a pop-up screen that highlights the importance of saving the code and forces the user to click a "Continue" button to get the exchange page. The LoG can also be displayed there with the option to download or copy it. Again, the users need to be proactive for it to make a difference but making the user's security a primary focus will only help CCE maintain a good reputation.
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May 30, 2025, 11:47:02 AM |
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Official statement: Cybersecurity incident update
Yesterday, our system suffered a malicious (DDoS) attack, during which our website lasted for several hours and received more than 100,000 malicious requests per minute. To this end, we immediately activated the incident response protocol and implemented Cloudflare's mitigation services to restore stability.
We confirm that this incident did not result in any data leakage or customer information leakage. The attacker issued a ransom demand, but we clearly rejected it based on our security policy and ethical stance.
Our technical team has resolved this issue and all services are now operating normally. We will continue to monitor our systems closely and strengthen our infrastructure to deal with future threats.
I suspected that something like this would have happened because human verification does not take that long to verify, even if CF(Cloudflare) is on. Last night, I tried to visit the official website of CCE Cash, but I couldn't. Then I thought I must ask here about what is going on, like everything is fine, and then you update with the thing I suspected. Well, on another forum, we are facing the same problem as this (Cloudflare verification). And that forum has also been attacked by a DDoS attack. Well, I hope everything will be alright soon. 
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May 31, 2025, 07:27:53 AM |
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What is Self-Custody in Crypto and Why It Matters More Than Bitcoin’s Price
Self-Custody = You hold your crypto's private keys. No third party (exchanges, apps) controls your assets.
Why It Matters More Than Bitcoin’s Price:
True Ownership → Not your keys = not your crypto. → Avoids exchange collapses (FTX, Celsius), freezes, or seizures.
Security & Sovereignty → Eliminates counterparty risk. → Resists censorship, hacks, and regulatory overreach.
Core Philosophy of Crypto → Bitcoin was built for trustless control. Self-custody fulfills this promise. → Price is noise; ownership is the revolution.
Permanent Control → Price swings are temporary. Your keys = lifelong autonomy.
Tradeoff: Total responsibility. Lose keys = lose funds. No undo button.
The Bottom Line: Bitcoin’s price is a distraction. Self-custody is the essence of crypto: financial sovereignty. Control > speculation.
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May 31, 2025, 11:06:30 AM |
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We confirm that this incident did not result in any data leakage or customer information leakage. The attacker issued a ransom demand, but we clearly rejected it based on our security policy and ethical stance.
If I may ask, what kind of customer information are we talking about here? What customer data do you collect and store that could be compromised, since you do not have the option to register on the site? How long are cookies from your site kept? I still have a log of a conversation with support from a few days ago.
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CCECash (OP)
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May 31, 2025, 11:11:16 AM |
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We confirm that this incident did not result in any data leakage or customer information leakage. The attacker issued a ransom demand, but we clearly rejected it based on our security policy and ethical stance.
If I may ask, what kind of customer information are we talking about here? What customer data do you collect and store that could be compromised, since you do not have the option to register on the site? How long are cookies from your site kept? I still have a log of a conversation with support from a few days ago. This is our guarantee, we do not require registration and of course do not store personal information of our customers.
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